A group for youth (the young at heart) to share their understanding, thoughts, and experiences. The group currently includes those that have been introduced to "Jeevan Vidya" and/or SIDH (Society for Integrated Development of Himalayas).

Saturday, July 29, 2006

Whisper behind the window

A chain of comments..which I thought could be shared on a slightly larger platform..

Amitabh said...

things wont change unless you want them to ..and then again change for changes sake ..is well, a fart we have all smelt...There has to be an ultimate aim ..an awareness...what do you want to change and how do you want to change it. Do you want to revolt..well try it...revolutions only make good stories.
My point is this... Reacting to things and circumstances wont get you anywhere. We have to act.NOt react.

P.SThinking is a natrual process everybody does it. Its what you think that makes the difference. What are you thinking ??

8:02 PM

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suvansh's domain said...

well ... i kind of agree to what amitabh said .. if u let us know what .. u really think .. we may togeather .. come to a solution and check out ..whether it balances most of our accountable equations or not..

10:05 PM

Siddhartha a.ka. MORIARTY said...

i dont think i am prepared for a revolution...i might dream about it but in the end its cold reality which plays the spoilsport...i think right now its all about what i want to do further in life...i hv chosen to become an engineer because i thought that i liked it...still do...at least i hope so...so far so good..its what i want to do after it...just go with the flow and become a clog in some company working ur ass off(cant help that either)...or do something more meaningful(read risky)....but its the rick which frightens me the most..what if i later realize the catch wasnt worth the bait??

12:30 AM

Siddhartha a.ka. MORIARTY said...

its been all over me lately...honestly...i have thought abt plans which i thought were rock solid...nothing could come in their way....still i think they are holdin off....but is that happines apparent or real??
that is the crux of the matter

12:49 AM

Raj Kanani said...

I like the idea -- we're looking for "evolution, not revolution". The difference to me is that in "revolution" the change is sudden, and may end up being for good or bad. "Evolution" is a change, but it's a slower, more natural process... and in its meaning, you are moving forward, progressing.

I, myself, have started becoming more aware of the subtler things in my life - I was at a "hi-fi" event, and we were eating food, chatting, etc. But, i felt discomfort... there were all these people around me that were working, cooking the food, serving the food, putting back the chairs, etc... doing physical work. And here I was standing, and chatting. And, most of us that were standing and chatting would think that our "mental activity" was more important than the worker's "physical activity". And, I thought.. I'm just a consumer, I don't produce anything.
At that moment, I looked for a friend to go help out with the work. I asked one person, he refused. Then, I asked Sameer.. and he came along with me. Basically, there was only one thing left to clean up... pick up and put in the van. So, I helped out.

However, the process started. I felt uncomfortable, and I was aware of this discomfort. That was step 1. Step 2 was being able to act on this discomfort (which I partly was able to do). Step 3, I think is being able to act right away and naturally whenever there is discomfort. Step 4 is creating situations and spaces, and planning for the future, where we rid ourselves of these discomforts, and live according to Understanding.

I've definitely oversimplified it. These steps don't always go in chronological order and can also be simaltaneous. Also, with different aspects of Reality/Truth, we may be at different stages. Already in our lives, we live according to many aspects of Truth. Also, there are many aspects which we have no awareness of.

Continual sharing, continual exploration, continual awareness, continual efforts to put 'understanding' into action... for me, this is my path.

4:07 PM

Amitabh said...

I agree with raj. Till late the feeling of discomfort would be apparent. Lets call it awareness. But awareness alone wont lead to anothing , its the application of that awareness in the terms of work and baehaviour that is important .And once I began applying myself to erase my discomfort, then the actual process began ...
Siddhartha feeling that cold life spoils the party is because of a lack of implementation. Try once ..in the smallest of things ..the pettiest of habits. Try to think it through and change it as an excercise...I think we realise how much control we have over our life..
And once that realisation seeps in , the process begins I think.
to put it into a nutshell ..I feel that this is philosiphy/school of thought etc..that works from micro to macro. From personal to social and then so on ..so to bring about a change in the larger order..we need to first understand and change our selves.

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Blogger Shriram Narasimhan said...

Hi,

Looks like it has been a while since someone posted here. Jeevan Vidya has a new Site (Madhyasth Darshan, Coexistentialism).

Check it out at www.madhyasth-darshan.info

Raj:- we met years ago. How are you.

7:25 PM

 
Blogger Shriram Narasimhan said...

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7:36 PM

 

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